Wednesday, March 14, 2012

RE: [papercreters] Re: Earthbag, Superadobe, Hiperdobe, why not Hiperpapercrete?



Funny thing is that I have several hundred old bags around from when I accidently over-oredered 6 years ago. They have been sitting out and are too weak to hold anything. Your suggestion is good.

Other than that I guess if anyone else wanted to go in on a big roll, but even then it would probably be too much and too expensive.

This discussion gave me the idea to try something like this as a base for the dome Sapceman made for me. I have it next to the new garden and want to harden off the plants when they are ready, which means I better get busy preparing the dome. I have papercrete blocks set under there now but they are not working out because they are too big and not a uniform shape or size (easliy identified as my work!).



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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: slurryguy@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:21:01 +0000
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Earthbag, Superadobe, Hiperdobe, why not Hiperpapercrete?

 
Judith, you may want to ask around locally.

Pay attention to what business handle a lot of produce or other materials that come in bags. Think about grocery stores, farmers/ranchers, resturants, school kitchens, and places like that. You might find a local source of used bags. While I doubt you will find much in the way of used tubes, you can still use the bags in the same way. The key would be to find a local supply of enough netting style bags and get them to save the bags for you.

It is best if the bags are kept out of sunlight. The UV radiation can cause them to break down and become weak. Don't neglect the details such as where your source of bags will be storing them until you pick them up. If the bags are just tossed into a bin outside and exposed, the bags may be worthless before you get them.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@...> wrote:
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> I looked into this a while back and I think what stopped me from going ahead with it was the price. When I looked up sources I found there were huge minimum orders. Maybe you would need a huge amount of the knit raschal. I don't know how to estimate that. Anyway, I like the idea and would give it a try. You would have to make domes with it though or the walls would fall in without some sort of buttress. If I could get some of the knit stuff easily I would probably try it for a garden wall filling the first course with pumice in stead of papercrete. the video has good music.
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